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hello and welcome to episode twenty four of audio visual cultures the podcast that explores different aspects of signed an image based cultural production we just contact from singing skyscraper we can have a bit of a child all right not a lot of the other sounds and culture an act to change just before and he joins me to get into class just when the same massive thank you to everybody who spends liking sharing most important last name and enjoying if you have seen him finding useful discussions that we've been having everything you do to help fight is really much appreciated if you can support on peachy arm to help stand under the podcast that would be incredible can I eat discussion and I'll be back in the end the demerger mission thank you she would act again toucher outlay or be involved in some line that was very strange yeah was tense Schembri citing problems going why isn't he can't really sweaty click on those same streets many qualities I give it much credit I'm one of those courses was giving a sense of just how dirty it was becoming to the cause of this phone this is our first one of the many things that shows with Tara is that too early less than a minute welcome right now I think Die Hard tarring inferno house to come up with a system we can avoid them it is like a twenty first century mashup of the sounds in a way a straight for me and then go except for the fact that the building was really well designed with fire in mine and when they finally get back if the actual controls the building because the internet seems to be controlled just from an iPad I'm of the phones and tablets are available and it's just cold attachments once you get control of it back on your template the building works fine turn off and on again Richard I want today has been telling us for years I quite enjoyed skyscraper actually I thought it was fun summer night ice for a firm which makes you go one of those kinds must be hot yeah it was at least an appropriate time of the year because what is it it's the fifteenth of July and husband every day which is very house or it's a phase described as a hot day and so it it's hot most of the northern hemisphere and that means I was inclined to care while there's people must be %HESITATION yeah but I was once right it comes up going really what do you can still be able to breathe at this point but again such a huge amount of heat pumped up towards them but I suppose there is this thing with these are known about the audience term contract which the filming courage's R. asks the words to agree to go on the specific direction these are sometimes not so why just thought to myself no human strength to do that whenever she will have enough stamina left to do that he's lost quite a lot of blood that's just not possible then going out in the parallel universe where this takes place it is possible for humans to be that strong have a stamina for those of physics working with different things where that number is that this is what family's capable of making us capable of S. cinematic and the sense that say the magic of cinema for human is able to do these things yeah because you're not we're talking the way back about them being moments went sort of start to heat the first was absolute limit any shops that are managed to survive a situation come out of it completely exhausted beaten and gasping for breath and booted a bit more and then in the next seat the delivery of the Clinton thing too about a minute later he's fine and he's trying out conversation somebody must get to the rim matching makes that possible I think that when we come out with action movies is that in addition to some syncopation movie world welcome to live by okay we couldn't do this much pricing because we can just added together lots of shots right active correct and not rush in addition to being shifted into park world been shifted one step further into the it is not even physically possible world there's been so many points in action movies work on %HESITATION person would die if they fall from the heights and landed on the rocks or anything on it so I think yeah you definitely wouldn't be able to hold a press on but then it's fine either I have a willingness to suspend disbelief and just care six months our success to omit but in the story space these things are possible but what else might be going on in the nice spending in this pretty little because in Austin got call it's not actually it's got conventions it's got standards it's got levels extremist actions increased I'm sorry one character chiefs a certain thing it's not even meant to make sense even within the world of the story is just saying that you have insurance I'm not saying I was going down one of these two routes for sure and it was a mixture of the two but both of them involved I'm pretty sure that this is not quite happening in this world I was not on it so because or if the contrivance for welding which is happening is how you invest with these things possible so I think that's part of the enjoyment is going this is Joe price of some kind I wasn't matching that there was a good degree of humor in this film I think it's important to have that humor not just to have a %HESITATION having a bit of a polls from the intensity in our stock come down which seems to be a stripper in addition to our stock market search let's see which necessitates having main characters you have a base has a sense of humor roasting Brussels Kitty that he could write quite funny government as well as content it's pretty typical rate you need some quick tips from there J. nine that tension there are some bakery nine several times and I don't know who these people are far away from us or what but wasn't tell quite near the end when you really needed to comic relief that I heard anybody else offering anything time is critical I wanted to get a minute take your mention because I was so happy to hear that needs combos and that's %HESITATION because we do not see her and knocks I think screen was a formative experience and my cinematic education as a teenager at Kmart when I was quite young I think I was thirteen when I saw it and it to detain solution center line to save screen cherry runners for change %HESITATION sands also remains in saying this is why they brought in those things twenty five most because their member the person on that task Askin me my friends RT at saying yeah my friends started offering our sins like shut up this is for you I remember I never happens on June zero therefore I would go and see if the whole ground for it my way and stuff read customer might be some reason where I mean I think the screen this is that they are scary there are the end things stop their post modern in the sense that they're highly referential and highly aware of characters you're talking about eight and inspired by lots of slasher movies or and the types of characters they are many councils Sydney as the crux of it all heard their child together that she species by Jamie Curtis and how did you yes lives and lives is also saying that's what a lot of oneness and non screen has stopped all sixteen her boyfriend's played by the ski %HESITATION shaving his name is Seth starter with him saying that ten minutes may yet our duty here doing it together the night everything kicks off he convinces are destined to finally see them because she's been resisting immigration issues wanted to weigh it out the party they're all laughing hi despite discussion of going behind the virgin survive spent you know a version you can die she manages to fight back and survive the screen was one two three four five six just a quick victory in addition to the screen she does she said a lot of lower budget films creativity but it's unusual to see her and quite make sense is something that's out of anything and she did a very good job of not more not just you know the conference and she did a very good job these women that just because usually at that they're not so good I think good job with the fighting their account I have to watch you do some I've been in the on court she's really kick ass and the screen comes our characters I've seen junior Hey thanks for being a strong person getting Siri the trauma of siting back she does not get back that was a lot of that in this character it was his death she's set me out the writing it's nine even that way her character was dressed very similar dress our system early on I thought this is a situation in which we've got two people who's been in the army the wine and you use that card yeah and he was %HESITATION this is what team is working with the FBI there's mention of having done something before okay so we didn't %HESITATION on after six years service members of the armed response even some special unit the prices are not cheap in the army so I got two characters are very capable yeah and she's a trained that said her character shirt and knock on the soccer here years fabrications that she's saying stuff we're dying to mankind okay the first hand that kind of training you need to be an option yeah right and what we're gonna have now is we're gonna have she's given a lot to just become a full time mom and he's got a career which isn't welcome anymore but it does involve actually going out and being pregnant I'm not so I'm not so I'm not gonna lie because I'm going to spend the whole time going to grumble grumble grumble what is that you're done with the amount of dependence is being gradually occurring over the course of decades of action movies but then they can put sparkly because they give her a lot more to do than just screaming and running around kids show support she has having on the police to do and ultimately when it comes to a climax she's the one who when sore during Johnson's character has just run out of things you can do she's the one who has an idea and scratch the entire situation under control isn't just save him although she does a map that that it's something he usually does for her and fixing her phone and the implication is that jokey relationship we better stop fishing because they are in the box or container and accept her phone regularly stops working properly and it is a specific she likes getting him to sort of write horror any indication as far out east the joke she makes S. that she's perfectly capable of trying to think he keeps just stating that works and that is simply repeating she says right just like very useful yeah but it's closely house so of course and that's the thing that solves all problems the end of this year St speak out yet he recruits I don't think as far as this film is concerned the way that you control buildings this is the same way that you control online banking on your device or saying we did you not get your home on your tablet and I suppose that's another one of those suspended disbelief things because we just have to go always sold on rates the common spaces that anybody could use running around the training to understand but it did make their visual from for the building and so screens screens all over the shop and so I'm telling you so much well there's one scene in particular we do need to come back to convert our character there were none of the fact that he thought screens up this is something that's very obviously call its genes from tiring inferno and Steinhardt boats to ferry talk with her %HESITATION building is the special work the public don't know what it's for and if you feel that it's a local east different types of screens account remembering the terms are used the whole thing is screens there's cameras search reverse camera Superbowl converse your whole thing is wild so that it can actually show you a Hong Kong underneath and around it as if you're standing in that hour it can also be a radio operator hall of mirrors and that's what it turned and she and the fake final sack pace it's built up to the solution really accent action set pieces throughout actually find it really enjoyable intends it builds up to that one I'm not really reminded me of course my houses in Shanghai because the big sappy said not from ace and hall of mirrors that's where this violence comes to a climax and %HESITATION so it really made me think about large scale but of course using screen technology and supplies conversely technology please enter active screens as a souped up version of the whole of merry set pace it's a huge leap touch screen environment there's a screens that you're interested in a variety of different ways and so one of the ways is that a lot of things that you might not think our touch screen actually are catching some of one point why can't still the structure in the first place some G. thanks bye chin Han okay %HESITATION this is where he goes into a ring which just seems to have three windows on one side looking after sixty years of journalism press handle on it she was a delight because it's not actually win the right screen which is cover for what he said and so things that don't even look like screen our screens this one point where any hand on the head of the line I think and it closed green as it takes his palm print those things which we not see other guys not security you know the fan is seen as the one he stitches up work somewhere his former colleague he stepped to sum up %HESITATION yes it was it's hand bringing an end to the meeting just on the screen hang on the windows and freight Burke latest this would have been incredible for her back the virtual window last year windows and screens basically there's a meeting be done using sure thing the firm is bigger how to have huge crowds at ground level watching the drama right the small digested unions are also watching on when they finally emerged in the building at the end and it's a kind of reuniting the family saying this story space audience have been watching the story of big screens of course I haven't been watching time discussing the kind of stuff you can film from a helicopter that's outside the building then we watch any footage from inside the building so as far as they're concerned there's been a surge protection from the outside the purpose of which they don't understand and then these people come out and they're okay but then it would be not and that's it so what we have in him is wrapping this story space version of us is the audience thanks in the in front of the characters doing a proxy of what we're supposed to be doing which is really celebrating the success of these characters I wonder to what extent we can identify them since trying to re write her %HESITATION seis nine Latin search there's lots of shots of people in the crowd and your niece watching through their phones or holding your homes up to found on watching it seems timely getting instant mediation what Sawyer might be doing the times that he comes right side there was one particular where the wire he needs to call to get access into the pan hice to be able to attempt to bring his daughter he needs to do this whole other fate of brilliance and spider man I the building is in talks with her he smiled too great %HESITATION style find but he has to go right side mesh part where of course he's trying to get back in and he's hanging from the rope that's hanging from his staggering the prosthetic leg is something we need to go into town three hanging outside of courses Lancaster reading to break apart with the way it's it's all right taxis time going there and then there should cost the card is your main lesson there Collins and I couldn't help but thanks operated New York centaurs partners nine eleven but people were selling the likes of suckling lamb and I couldn't help wondering is this a way of re writing not because that image circulated so and sent my arms %HESITATION should say and has been used in so many different ways and it can be wrapped in lots of different ways and that causes lots of debate Sir what would you do if you were in that situation would you say in the burning falling building bridges jump that takes the idea off socks %HESITATION either dying and another day program state or taking control but many might see it as the cards why always maybe some last burst of freedom because you've got a ton of me too Jones and she have making it quick celebrating experience during welcome %HESITATION I just remember debates about that kind of thing happening and what if you change the narrative what if he changed axing the guy down the fire broke being able to kind this way back in the masters two separate occasions when he's hanging off the edge of this building and one it's when the first cases were in the building it doesn't quite make it and so he's the age limit the best time to get into and he grabs a bit of twisted metal is hanging off the edge and just hang on the edge of it this is the middle of the spring and then second time is when he's dangling by a rope that's taxes and prosthetic foot and I'm thinking okay we've seen how this things attached to his stomach he's gonna be slipping up I don't have his own prosthetic foot very quickly but I'm I'm just to recover and so yeah this is the falling man climbing back up into the building and finding a way to make it so that the building can be sorry the price and terrorists the only ones who done the fact of having a floor which is on form to be a big part of the plot of this film because it's something that the ninety six four yeah really first set the fire and it's a chemical formula that is actually caused by the sprinklers coming on so this bill is using the mountains and Arctic fence against it and then the whole point is the building has technology for containing fires within compartments no just regular folk with a possible there anyway if I could spread from one part of the building to another is even as if the fire suppression measures are taken offline this remote control okay so this up to calm his way for a good chunk of from what we're saying is just one shoe on fire and then of course the planned terrorist happens to get control of this remote control facility and shut down for safety measures and even do things when they open up the fence and so the options being sucked into the floors that are far the result of that is the first US respondents before long the settlements by the floors on fire I will that's fine but then above it that's the high pressure situations situations and the film is all about getting that situation power under control even at the point when the fines reached its way to the very top floor it's still brought under control again so you know it seems to be a really intense fantasy of twin towers thing being flown into the tires which is completely impossible and what about that is that it's a way of taking that going not we are going to fix it strikes me initially as really is your ass on consciousness really still trying to deal with are actually back in the nineties and noughties America still re fighting the Vietnam War and lots of difference in my C. R. S. and that was well over twenty years off to market record problems %HESITATION so yeah still seems completely sensible one of his big we apologize now hi Angela I think that and then I think there's an obsession of great possible dangers of high rise that thing as well in the dystopian surround I was thinking of high rice you've been lately your short last year and the year before opposite of this from me first ever car just more at this similarity actually is and that the architects house the very special paradise like Tyson very tall maybe there's a so actually I think the film is there's a lot more to it than just starring in Fargo trying hard to connect those different things both of those jokes as well because I think with time I know it's been years since I've seen at home you know I think D. six fire chief I thank the thing is that some kind of bias being constructed and they haven't taken the right precautions isn't that like take time like rice that some higher I think it's his family his wife at least he's been out of party where they've been at a party and because between Hammond St craziness not that cuts between them being heroes it's Paul Newman's character's wife he stopped %HESITATION so and distressed person but I think she's quite a strong character effort remember correctly she's leading people through the fence she's keeping paper all together organize saying survivors after Iraq correcting things but maybe fourteen when I saw it on TV so sketchy I think would die hard she does things differently there are similarities but does he think that many I mean I think we were saying earlier when Johnston's shirt largely stays on and we're used to seeing during Johnson's office find other ways to draw attention to his folk yeah the character of band he stitched up when they embrace and encourage me whoa we're talking as well very well this is John McCain and how's the record with their police officer he's on the crimes yes it is sergeant Howell our panel and the other was a definite no to that for most the police chief who's in charge of all operations at ground level in skyscraper having no relationship whatsoever no he should restore its relationships media canister you screens at St you said H. coming in my house so you're saying things that he says will ever thing or elsewhere because there's a part where you got to call back to the building and I never understood high because you go to folks she's accidentally anyway so it's a one sided relationship this time but actually it's also immediate it's very neat combos character Sarah Smith so it's mediated three Sarah having dealings with the place directly and she'd be able to help they suspect turned yet they give her a police jacket to wear even when they're still suspecting her name might be involved in something like that turns light that she can speak their language she explains I think it's going does different things that I wonder because she said there but her character there's an implication and their lives and the United States say you don't know what she may still have her career fair in Hong Kong for her husband's business that doesn't mean she's no longer search and yeah this was the phone just by not mentioning having occurred so trains are quite young there is a sense that she is an absolute super woman why it's really welcome I think when we won women being represented more info we want well rounded characters we want them to be peaceful but then again it is an action may be and of course all the heroic characters are going to be super humans online but it is just a bit frustrating that and your landscaping %HESITATION experience right kids saving your lives she has on the train surgeons or surgeon it was also on the track and the languages I suppose yeah that's one of the downsides of trying to create parents is that the implication is that ninety nine point nine percent of people wouldn't be able to do this networks and non identifiable currency are there %HESITATION we're talking on the way home that the character of the damsel in distress since you've been transferred on to the children yeah as the others what we normally do have personalities they just have things about your letter plot points well the boy does look gory and graphic trends in the names of children %HESITATION yes and Henry's last Monday show courses fires more of a problem for him and the rest of them I had higher hopes she gets that up so the moms with the boy and that's with the girls I was hoping for an award because she did seem to just revert to a help me actually and I really wanted to just write a guy in her arms or start yelling get off my Daddy or start beat writer if we go back twenty four years the true lies our task is daughter who's suddenly yanked into the store in the film has a bit of ingenuity and that she next this monarchy cynics and runs off she has a an attempt to try to undermine the terrorists are using her losses that was a more active Dorset behavior all right main male character then we go into custody I was wondering to what extent again it is as far as I talk to say he's he's becoming the all American hero during Johnson's coming to face a class I think to what extent is it the United States needs soccer hero archetype it's constantly user it's it's that he's going in as the same as family he doesn't give a fuck about the politics of why terrorists is set for building why they've attacked him and stole on this tablet it's not it's a bigger picture and anyway this bigger picture is commonly known as this one moment where we're going he's the leader of this group I don't think terrorists is the right word charm terrorists in the sense that they're doing on all a lot of violence and killing personal ideological now this is their driver's crime syndicate thirty five people justifies all the things that happened to them yeah over all right I'm when the head of the terrorists isms course both access to windows counter will sorry he says if you don't open these doors here on a three would go for this building and that's the shock is not over the shoulder shot a person talking to sort of sorts face during Johnson's face it's been quite frankly by that point is being held up by the wrong parties to you guys and as the show if he's initially borrowed heads and these heavy lifts up stairs Virginia I it's not I will have to watch to get serious even our eight some of the stories him interacting with kids using the line which is yes that's it yeah and they checked me I mean it's also not as him carrying them holding them and as far as the firm also has these two images of people not stirring proper carrots kits because very early on we have the thing which costs sorters leg very little of it is explained it's the ten years ago seeing a male character who seems to tell the police officer and is taking his own family hostage in the house and when the swat team coming he's actually holding you learn something from him as human shield enemy question down reveals this way this was a vast and virtually the same of course it's a Brian this is one five zero the end gets it's just him there are always other critiques in jail it's just him and he's because practice sorry already turns round and of course is holding Georgia so you go to in front of them and run with that much of a shock grades caricature is contrasted with this hearty evil regard for kids one thing about those is set because he uses the screens J. orchestrate something there to make it look like he's facing nine back when actually he's behind him but photo was turned that way I should have seen him approach so %HESITATION novels we I don't think it would take some of that it's just a trophy %HESITATION largely there was no threat so I guess who's been on five hours yeah how does anything because the number of the end sure Sir was like turn on the finest person system again on every single for the entire building CO two starts being spread out of this forest person system in it chokes the four okay fine for a little bit I don't miss this anything above fifty also flows that are on trial work and everything been melted by that point how does the building still standing finds been intense most youngsters here you can't really cook at it with too many cigarettes even gentle questioning at %HESITATION rivals cinema scenes yet you won't get to it shortly the violence is pretty intense and require a lot of swearing given this a twelve day I just it's the opposite occurred and I will send her away this is how markings on it took about nine it's about things being well done he was there some competition because I be eligible for a U. certificate so this thing in the world and well right now okay I tell you I'm not telling you to go back and listen to every single we're talking about that well done to all right you know it was nearly a fifty that's when you start terms now and the second yeah I just saw it was a really tall and telling me nicely to so some of those effects on both her kids given that people take really small kids and twelve ways let's take a moment to consider the fact that our main protagonist having a person doing Johnson's character was apparently partly inspired by and when Johnson was trained by an actual MPG the end his name is escaping me I'd just rather they think I can't remember what website it was that I saw the article it was something I saw on Twitter I know on Twitter as much at the moment because my smartphone is dead this is one thing %HESITATION I so I think it cracked on it because the article headlined his post some since J. C. M. P. che thing and that needs council's character was a strong woman something like that I hope both these things quite interesting story the technique called me but I read it because that's all in the family I Kerr so I'm quite keen to see this night I read the headline and I solo women being strong characters as Polegate but I actually just want to be like people maybe because we're kind of springing back that you get a level playing field has been depressed for so long the spring back and then it will finally reach level the Caribbean here's NBC's called Jeff glass front okay so he does a lot of training with them I was reading about it thanks again this is green but when are we going to get to the point where I have to laugh peachy place not PC character this technician of this conversation before by actors playing characters in films and so on so forth at the same time might smarting %HESITATION yesterday morning I saw a story and it was something that led me to the guardian but then one of the top ten headlines with safari Scarlett Johanson blocking our user roles because to play charms character and it says female to male transaction a lot of times activists were really upset about that she seems to have listened to them and taken on board and she backed projects said it wasn't clear whether the project is going to go for rich after this I thought that was and since this is still fired a fresh memory after the ride over her casting and ghost in the shell being an example of whitewashing I think it's quite similar and she is using your probiotic doctors and disabled roles and then I think your gold record center here like this you have to bring into question the term this vehicle as we mentioned when he signed going from this past Saturday buy side thing and Stefan that he can pull the bag off and still put himself up sorry that part of one of his legs and saves his life that he's able to call he does manage to move extremely far off passing well for someone who at some points in the film doesn't have a sponsor he uses it to teach %HESITATION the door open when the door to the pet crisis closing in after he's gone through a lot can open its closing the user selected job open I mean this thing really should be in pieces and also I suppose in a way X. Max is quite a bit of probation I have is that he's cooperating quite advanced prosthetic my guess is that if you have a prosthetic the number one thing is that because it's not connected to your scope of work bearing the love your body is a flush of your system and seven can mean lots of chafing lots of cruising and just need a second wife and this is somebody who puts a massive amount of weight on his stomach this is not a realistic I have to spend this legal route one yes this is the occasional bit of limping but he uses that thing as if it's not supposed to so I was nervous and every time there is if we need to stop her expedition moment he was standing up there having lots of conversations and he was standing up and I was going to come on night and knew this is fiction but he needs to set di he needs to get off our Lancaster office the concern hello just for a reason but yes he is I can %HESITATION Superman's so you have to just ignore it Hey let's see action movies in which people and your mom is conscious but I can't think of an actual meeting with somebody and she use as much as his car those declining on the financing it will be when you get sort of sold the interacting with other people in a way that Mrs dominate them is featured in the trailers but let's just mention that the jumping off of crying through the open space between the grand opening into a window he smashed in the building using the Honda crying you just talking to jump when it starts to kick off and he said in Hong Kong he's been advance apartment it seems things kicked off between them I said mystery that's %HESITATION going dying and I think and what compels you to steal a placement right instead of talking to the place obviously you don't get action movie but he commits crime you know it's one of those action movies where the hero house actually commit crimes shaping the hero and entirely gets away with it because they're the hero and they done a big thing when I actually hi Greg this is eating and trying to see if three people are secured %HESITATION the firm for which he's being chased by the police but the please thinking that he's in on it with our team has taken the building and I suppose it was been a refreshing change the we didn't have to wait until the end of the song for the place to realize this place seems to realize this court and there so all right his family or the building he's trying to get in the building so all right he's just trying to get inside his family company with no point to the ever say why didn't you just tell us we hope to see the law also requires that you can just say this is what's happening here's as much as I can get heat please help my family but of course you don't get option maybe with lots of action set pieces that need lots of digital design yeah we can your business but you always sit through all of the credit actually some very gold mines commission only very curse really paying attention to the credits for films such as skyscraper will reveal to you that the overwhelming majority the personally worked on this film with visual effects confidential voter so huge my neighbor goes into making any %HESITATION and on those sounds the lists are almost endless there's multiple companies yeah many just a single company doing the work but work a portioned out to multiple companies because the so much of it at one point was the credit just far enough so %HESITATION that's a lost on performance it was an action movie of course I'm in Austin I lost count at about a hundred and twenty stock performance and then also okay there's going to be roughly an equal amount of visual effects artists but number is ten times the amount of visual effects are still being listed on the various different companies some companies doing a lot more than others because of that loss of visual effects we have to get back here just to see if you have a long skinny the music the total was strong I focus on the use I don't think it's in her while the box office it's nothing as well as other things which doesn't mean something mild but nothing is finalised probably expected we have just seen it on the Sunday of its opening weekend of course by opening weekend we actually mean something that began on one on Wednesday Thursday and it's been really good weather so I don't know if that's a fact and how many people you can go in the Senate this week I don't even know what else is like this week hotel Transylvania three okay that seems to be the big one is up against I think that is the one I read is doing much better at the box office but it has already managed to gross itself offers a twenty five minute and hotel Transylvania the third in a series so it's got an inbuilt audience with kids certain Finnish goes %HESITATION I know very little about this I was thinking it would be nice to consult my former colleague Carrie Pattinson because he works on Hong Kong cinema especially the relationship between Hong Kong cinema and D. S. this is just directing this transnational today this %HESITATION most firms are anything it's really obvious that it's shaky these two places you accent Hong Kong one thing that did strike me as there is one moment when he's yes the size is going to tell police are there to you guys were trying to arrest investigation that's a real problem and that's about it for people in Hong Kong not speaking with everyone else that he interacts with those I would now Taylor that's awesome %HESITATION yeah it was the evil in the star nicely done the actual have the villains wasn't English he wasn't on Richmond but they had one of the villains one day by Marcello Lippi English nicer the main guy was European Hans Gruber not quite more so European origin well the universe would look like if whether this is true it's the best Christmas movie ever made despite the fact that same miracle on thirty fourth street even the extreme as long as that is how the Grinch stole Christmas is perfect have I suppose the catch phrases of the likes of die hards Hey what are you going is that the thing that they used to they were just they would have the main hero just before they're about to kill somebody make your grip okay fine it has a question doing effectively but also it makes the hero into a psychopath yes it makes me to somebody because okay how about security funds going to polls and make some sort of harm before I do it and then I'm going to be sent back to us joining you reflect on the main campus on campus finally this is been judged to be something we ought not to be doing that's a lack in this case have something I can help you listen is what you do during jobs which is that you're actually wrapped up the attentive until the tension just becomes too much to bear and you have to do you have to grab something or you have to turn to one side we just will face palm but you keep it really minimal and your attention that are entirety of civil wars I think it was better it's just my anxiety spends to buy out the past few years probably thirty years ago this makes sense for her like crap but not even my nine year everybody was fine and there is no real danger to anyone I was just find that really stressful to sensory so I think that says more about my mental health has deteriorated over the last twelve years senators by this is just how I am not I always love doing the ructions is going to see lesser I got really worried about we're becoming crazy fans think saving quite a lot of stuff including Jumanji welcome to check when the sun finally started playing right now because the rest of us yeah I was dubious about it for awhile but they refuse to regain its actually really enjoyed it on the first show is quite awful but I liked it when I was a kid I really like to men's units can chat there was a cartoon that I watched as well I thought it Jumanji welcome to the jungle ready harnesses clarity right and then the thing is good crack will perform on the seven one that's very special place in my heart I know there's problems with it still but I went to see it with a very dear friends we're both having a very difficult time reading and Manchester Salford areas we went out together a rough time and it was just a little moment of joy and a very difficult periods it's special first thing well doing jokes saying a repair this is the cynicism which according to into expunged from my being I didn't think he was the one doing the singing thank you nothing major in Hindi films with me to switch to somebody else okay nothing great it's I'm sorry sorry sorry I will personally right sorry latitude where there are ones where it's great because you know the S. like stocks Kalenjin Christmas switches from Chris says I would be surrounded on to something else voices during this star is about WXYZ hi he is holy rates nice guy I think he just seems to be S. R. lady everybody and your peace and everybody who works with him just as he spoke yes her son he's not somebody articles across social start this is the same time is this the guy he's a wrestler who's having a bit of a government acting yeah then with wrestling exacting anyway because it's so complicated it's math this call service does and then this goes this goes the distance you from one source of performance to another and then this course of styles he moved from mountaineering to Entertainment Tonight that's what and actually that brings us full circle we bet because with the screen name combo hoping quite formative in my some experience will always make fun of me from the Swiss Brendan Frasier of course that was fired during the rock Johnson hi it's me great clips and then let me take ours the schools are making cool thing that nearly ended his rugby career than that because the CG version of is or I think people are going to cut costs not his hope I was really bad it was he's pretty here those were probably very roughly H. system time nineteen since become less some options below Christmas memories five nine several so fast growth time periods when I was eighteen when I made the effort to try and watch basically every action movies of the eighties and I did very well in the long kind of action movies that definitely added new things new things that are in some cases were just new because they mixed armaments from several different things from home but that's not the way if you find our discussions interesting and useful please subscribe on iTunes give a small monthly pledge on peach tree on I'm trying to raise enough to pay a monthly subscription to sign copies to make every episode available on iTunes and other pop forms and to upgrade the website which can be fined up audio visual cultures dot wordpress dot com thanks for listening and spread nowhere to catch you next time