Audiovisual Cultures episode 12 – British Silent Film Festival Symposium part 1 automated transcript

hello welcome to episode twelve of audio visual cultures the podcast exploring signed an image cultures I'm your host policy this addition as part one of the double recorded that the twenty eighteen British silent Film Festival symposium on the nineteenth and twentieth of April next week Andrew Scheer night give an overview of the symposium and I talk to some of the speakers about their work this week focuses more on the Film Festival and screenings there isn't a folk festival this year but it is G. to be held again and September twenty nineteen there was however a day of screenings at the wonderful Phoenix cinema and east Finchley later we'll be talking to film historian Jerry Turvey topic the history of the Phoenix musician Stephen horn by providing live accompaniment for silent film screenings and it was such a real traits hearing and seeing him performing an improvised score for a film he hadn't sane and I talked to Brian A. Dixon from the British Film Institute bite the festival film restoration and stupid cation firstly though I speak to RT film historian and then Stacey asked Tony Fletcher who programs much of the day of screenings in the Phoenix on the nineteenth of April the recordings were made in public so please forgive the noise of London and the back lines here's me speaking with Tony sure the thirty film the story involves cinema museum about thirty years most of my time looking at the Sundance Film sometimes now and this morning at the British silent film festivals you should really wonderful collection of films right yes and this is a lot of film festival films only shows were made when someone fills the spill the seventh on the screen services what we could transition period in Britain in nineteen twenty four nineteen twenty nine when making all the sources making over a hundred school sound films Kaplan in nineteen twenty five six seven and then they moved to Wembley is twenty percent AMPLEXOR missions today in nineteen twenty eight and can you and then make a feature document Rosen survives in nineteen twenty nine they had a fire and then the company merged with exile government German group when she gets continued what makes it expensive could still be as many many wonderful things that somebody like me I work for and the contempt learning all the time more of a %HESITATION so it was really fascinating finding well most of the films that survives in this documentary so but most of the civil rights acts of many of the folders got some some of them are popular songs of the face some of them attention there is a day to celebrate the survey will be pushing music sheets by medical knowledge right who composed as section eight twenty eight two names in fact with a big archive of his music she had a night a twenty six twenty seven maybe the foreign office he said three summer shows one in black one in the art of nine and one zero two and what they did to a twenty seven twenty eight is a recorded number of his own system so some of them today he was a kid the jazz band at the end of their American they actually paid on the Isle of man in December of nineteen twenty seven this is the reason why we have to fill and then the Coney Island six losses %HESITATION control over America they came close to prison principally because they could drink capitalism Hey eventually after this infant children the twenty nine that I came in twenty nine they tell you that losing immigration I know lots of the American jazz players couldn't get permits I had to return to medical went to Germany France hello prohibition was fine then I think he was a little bit at LAX %HESITATION so let's see if I could go back in time in some places to me that was the best film but it left us because that's when you will see it might be a fun staying back let's get twenty four ranked the second resumes with Celtic twenty one things the second will be a five seven twenty two so you can really only hear them at the right stage zing right state when they showed in the cinema please what this service is still a few bookkeeper the eldest still I think today was the one the man that we just all and I can find those references that that pairing in Britain in the years they made the phone as hell and I think it may be made in the states and that was at the county's dog photos show from nineteen twenty five so that could well be the earliest film on the program and the sound quality is very good yeah for that particular hello and it's fascinating to see the reunions because it wasn't just people talking to me the comment or conversations or just dating musical numbers there was a lot of dancing in there as well and the likes of the client that kind of thing is so you can hear the topic yeah the sales lady would have been able to the fields that Santa black balsam at the time which would of just being introduced into Britain in that time so there are actually several photo films which %HESITATION dot C. section films where dance instructor will show the audience have the doubts on fill one survived a we did show it once many years ago we Lawrence cannot sing with removal can you help us with a as he did try to do that to us is that June written by the male who is very well known musician did appear in at least one photos with them so %HESITATION you have never seen them before %HESITATION photos so eight and ten probably the best telesales and certainly one of the best by the way good I haven't shown this conference these three classes the one of the problems and he's got a mission to asking some what was that sometimes the high pitched voice of the woman does because it sounds like the screen we did a bit and there's some of that I still don't know who's singing but they were obviously is in America the photos it was an American although it may pop into focus is also trying to emulate the fight to sign of doing a little it was an attempt to collected that not that successful the more popular dry T. one census they will be shown mainly in small cinemas around the child's hand twenty six to twenty seven twenty eight probably four to five or six months from April through September the program would just be about half an hour forty five minutes it would be added to the regular sauna film program that was going on a lot of them didn't work because the sound effects but that was given to the project is asking the technicians did not have to work in an office in the sand with the hand saying old with sound right and Bill Clinton court cases against the forest phone is filled by men just want to get that money back because they were so take this is a tough in fact if the film was shown by the company sells they will normally not a problem but the problem is having other people knowing health issues that have the system has consisted of it will cost me ten question which account %HESITATION so the way it would be the consequence to their normal project this would know that see how it stacks was active the reason is taken up speed this will sound a little bit on the side of the field which they would have had to hi with the films that I spoke to last me I'm not going to get out I know a lot more than nineteen you were talking about the person yeah I mean it's somebody they certainly me in my generation aren't really aware it was very famous at the time that was the first time the show G. and I and my counselor he's very funny comedy songs again E. specialize in power these he made twelve eighteen nineteen twenty six and seven nine twenty six the only thing he famously would stop will build some of the other poems missing would not be top of the bill he was very big name as I said he did also makes a solid films in the team he made seven three refills I needed to use his immense sadness and know what what do you like being in his mid thirties and probably to see how we would have made excellent film six of the penal language makes sense investment involves some of it some action special something task of items I don't know maybe it's just a cultural difference and then charges at the time my goodness what do you mean some of them are funny but they're testing over and resent being no issue today will be thirteen correct and some of the click throughs what should the homeless with tents in mind for this when we do get through to see and also the black button down there was a reference in there which would say today he could I mean all listings on in fact there's one film that Brian would say that Brian he's done these things showing okay it's fascinating I think the maison but also I mean I think it's still important to revisit them because where we have come from and to go back there yeah yes there's a lot of time and when you go back to Northern Ireland well that's where I'm from yeah you can do some research and find out which cinemas in the I think it's shown on this well I don't know what I mean the local papers can tell the effect you know Jerry turvy who is involved in the cinema %HESITATION able to book about the Phoenix cinema is here he told me that Donald was shown here in nineteen twenty nine because when sound on film payment became popular they re issued the photo sales at twenty four frames per second so actually some of those to survive but they didn't show them here when they came out in twenty six twenty because this musical nail right to hold and they were not allowed to be shown anywhere near a musical the full after businessman to single announcer makes the sometimes you find them in six so if you went to for example Belfast the chances are you will find to mention though five people have to go to a smaller town ten miles from bell font but as the musical right and that's where less often research a new counselor with specifically on the Tyne theatre that was %HESITATION pictures I'm sure many of these kinds of phones will actually shown in Yukon yeah and the medical tools back hi developers and a twenty thirty twenty seven will still have a full and a half three research me counsel for the spill but definitely a reference to Thoreau's back in many big impresario of showing the film some wing Abadi from December twenty six through to June twenty seventh I'm not sort of thing that may be that the bigger the musical possibly he may have done a deal that it may well be that some of the doctors didn't want to be a cost effective he said if the Iraqis didn't travel to certain places in the pub circuit then show the films that shows through %HESITATION possibly stole most of those still most faith in that town the company controls yeah I also signed up for the phone is sample based on these states for the first time today one of his %HESITATION is the nine zero LOL with a string and he basically ran the resistance %HESITATION for the first three full years and then when it flew off because of trouble with the satellite being shown properly a medical is it'll slash and Jeff was Africa came in and took over the FOT changed the name to produce talking pictures which you probably have heard of said that he still can pages is actually the first phone of him under different names and he moved from Clapham will soon was shown in the weeks to Vivian van Damm you probably know ran the windmill if you can find them who is the manager of the pharmacy marketing in nineteen twenty five six and seven before he had to leave he described his old about the three three studios in not very good terms the Fulton block a lady's levels however I think because that's probably what they would use around the ground level that's when they develop the film that'll run north of that they could do it at sea is it too so you probably have and the whole time we have a grand room they probably would have had the studio and then ending in the face they would have had the Toyota since he's with the troops to develop weapons and is that a puzzle about how the food with Vera because in nineteen twenty nine Sam was shown in several in nineteen twenty five six seven and eight photo was shot in the same so this is a puzzle hello one defendant could you develop the seventeenth season same chemical solutions we know that when they were different chemistry different services provided little soul about that although the sound strip is different looks different came the closest and then in the late yeah thanks it's a terrible area so they actually do look like two different physical component thank you very much and good luck with the rest of your thanks again to Tony facades next is Andriy Sheila nice speaking with Gerry Turvey can I get your name and okay Jerry I suppose these things I pour myself a film historian and may as saying east fifth St written there pretty thorough history building give us a better something okay you stop me the basic building was erected in nineteen ten the third party that actually went bankrupt and consequently we didn't get to yeah they were hold sort of chain of cinemas around laughing says background what is interesting about the original is that once this is thanks strong the front of the he was quite different recently it was a kind of a little extra something it is a very gentle smell from consequently the rich rejected with the far right of the screen he made it clear that maybe it would have been the San Marcos river had %HESITATION now I'm in the auditorium was right and there's no prescription no fees who's back there seven dollars sure we have a front row yeah in the nineteen twenties because that was a cinema HM the fiction because there are three yeah competes in terms of their own so when you look at the advertising pressing yeah I think we should be focusing particularly the need to we also this and in the other competing I have so not only fill the office live music connectedness I've got a couple of lines state road consequently the sort of film this morning we were the first local Cinemark to combat the sun okay the major stuff like it says on the address on the side of his building yeah Los it's the shorter company he's an amazing breakfast can be shown close this place because the orchestra and the displays and live entertainment which I suspect must be reduced that's a question still hangs in Moscow that sort of stuff this is one thing is not to say what to say okay obviously the satellite is different the okay let me okay this licenses to safety the Middlesex County council was responsible for by this this is the most ready for pickup one minute sixty order hello this is calling on behalf of the city four we want to show a lot yes at the same time of course this is the second single building the oldest the big simplicity and the muscle hill the other thing means soul some of the most impressive all of the things that isn't the same number so if you look at books on the history of cinema hold on to the next six months early and you guys can fix the mess so we had to one the deadline that was given to us by six K. so owners decide to switch more than this consequently the paper that said Hey thanks for certain projects and change for her followers to hand the interior was reset sorry the decor that you see that places those war powers within the Hartlepool Mullaney who were very supportive here is the size of the city and a few years ago this model is filled with K. you should never say that they deserve to get the other transformation of course was in the back to school so much %HESITATION I think from what we have said in this design Dr back consequently they said much about the civilized focus of course was the pick of said about this country and we had lots of fans on C. of the Phoenix is really is there a story behind that as well really the Coliseum in the twenty where he says he actually said the shipment side with some the children the second big crisis in nineteen thirty eight was the first because there could be a crisis within the eight nineteen eighty four was the trough of seven are going to cut hi this is Rajib full right everywhere ironically enough so that you for the third they were big so consequently they needed stiff today will be closed out of the way we were back to being in order yeah yeah this is like everywhere else we sat eight forty six before that at the start of the set please sounded similar to another this is a great draw the young guy that was not a Jew he was allowed to go inside and he tried C. so an organization the film is to consider the distributed but they want to check the house so they had access to lab results have come from so they that was really recklessly on Harris I would love to say New Jersey Sen but never the less they have to face the fact that all this is all going to show you can you can you please suggest it may be trucks for this yeah hello to save some of what was then the impact was interesting that we face between the GAO said which was at night he Tory prime minister there was convicted last yeah we see a local trust money just a single the trust because charitable trust and from nineteen ninety five they set a buy rating conclusions about his actually being a charity and consequently you know yeah it's been the same doctor shows our house how to reach into the low the Jewish festival for example pretty soon so I have a whole lot of education because we became unique I can't trust government mandate your last decision or not we said we still thank thank you for this Saturday we have to have %HESITATION so something which I think is she was in the house three oh one I think when she was hired to John two thousand Texas we got money from her she's not to reset the system so the interior lives down the I think at the actual and the architect yeah this to the cafe yeah studying the cinema because you're always the service was %HESITATION because it became a challenge for us when we were putting me five so like the whole process is why did I hear from a lot of the time retirement is when you actually get to do the work this was a mythical took a good fifteen years ago I think when you when I first met this is accountable how may the eleventh doctor's considering whether they're taking it's it yes yeah president Clinton was an underdog when it first and quickly and in the nineteen in nineteen inches restrooms in the final phase one of the biggest forty well if it comes out anytime soon all references case study in the source the yeah on the left and the public appearances yeah someone who does seem to be thanks a lot BMC this is please hold instead it has to really be as we've been seeing is that even even what it actually stands for on the Phoenix these these let me %HESITATION numbers for ninety nine okay eighty three seven hundred remember we have expect nothing I mean when you go to other countries which have Phoenix thank you for thanks again to Terry it was really informative and so great learning more about that beautiful sent a man next Andrea nice speak T. musician Stephen horn and quite a noisy pope thank you yeah I can you know for and that's a nine twenty eight by the summer never seen it before processing credit we've been talking about it was blind and sort of program and given given the advise of the Spanish okay thank you very much in the background the voices of the people is the main cause among the he's coming out with German name by the end of yeah some of the German states some of them and serve yeah right Germany road was Frederick yeah thank you I think that kind of gets just a little bit of a when you did have a couple of screening of ever yeah today with the right tools and today which makes it is always good in the cinema sign they tend to be called the yeah strumming I had %HESITATION this this means the other thing I loading thank I he worked out with the string is as yeah cool what is the signature well I think it uses doing since I used to play out of it I've been doing everything is Philadelphia Nickelodeon but I tend to only do that if I because I am not alone it's more than the physical action in the new the dominance of another according to the time you I mean can you envision just having a I use it to the same time because my yeah when I do those I don't go to yeah three the one that struck me was nine strokes Israeli yeah you could have been doing this I think right yeah I think it's not I'm not convinced you can teach people how to thanks a lot what was the month one the difference between being a musician playing music but I for that purpose hi the engine not using your really unless you want to turn into a different the one thing yeah it's improved the music we had seen some that the second guessing health is doing a lot of not everything was the same about ten minutes and you get a sense this is exactly what kind of so this is a they did set when you stand in the dock at nine when the guys working going into Sunday what if it had cooled enough for being such a difficult one because the coding and some of it like a harmonium but it will be will be right because of the but okay this is but then by the end of during that from the ride okay yeah again any sickness the reaction does anybody create a free online one I can see with momentum I was glad I was one of the things the other than just doesn't sound the way that seems to have a single one of them was how you doing really talk about this is yeah but I think for me and use the disease I think from I think whenever someone said and then when it's time for a long finishing just I can use the search for someone and in some the usually held on the screen number three they would generally how long enough to be the first I would really it was a really excavations at thank the question is are we right we recently twenty sixteen a new printer okay using the they I was wounded is it possible to do that that is what you do is I've been doing some I started off as a I didn't come on it's going fifty one school and so I got one the whole started getting on the international circuit so yeah for the day was getting at a difficult question maintain the dons the way that but it's not just laying in the middle of the moment the thing is when you can reset the five live could it be a fight animation it's going to it's going to be this is for all the things okay right with the DVR yeah may not be ready until this most of the time one and you can with a completely original that was originally so the next one of things that at this moment it is very certainly what you're using yeah yeah when I play see the full and there's a lot that's something I usually go to the defendant if I know in advance that that's gonna maybe recorded in the minutes leading up to the so that when the young lady but that and I was playing yes it was maybe romantic entanglements in the Nick of something about the size of a segue into that and then okay moments again and so I didn't see that before I was going for something and like us we and they just right when I when I get this way just basically hanging over the what I'm looking at the film so that's probably why right because I'm more than concentration it is everything is whenever people ask twenty three because it might take some time to do something the description of having to make a decision about what service it's even more intense yeah yeah yes the government the the the the looking old man you know the moment of everything instead of something else the T. you have a rec room it is like the longest continuous we were both six Olympic apple but then the with that done today with like disproportionately so that that was but other than sometimes where is your favorite actors or anything like that my favorite film okay even though I it takes using handheld everything about the store we would and you need some music which but it seems like it's about fifteen in the second yeah HM no I am no no U. K. it gets lost New York they arrived about midnight and then they would if the new president Margaret may yeah he lives in yeah the yeah right from the do you ever get to see the city's sometimes no money get a free by the with the amount of time that they need to but some maybe one day the film one of the things we're three days see this is one of with the place of eighty one they feel thanks very I have done thanks one like this is a question the event is but it could be six months there is but that did not happen yeah yeah I had to say about it do you have any insight and I have said today that some of those shops are just wait the motion reaction mmhm the latest in the some say right now thank you click on place what's more that is the big thing we gonna fight against to a great music SA I want us to move on you have to go with the end up with music one of the things it held for review on the record the next related for about fifteen seconds it seems to me that it is speaking that's right we'll be waiting for you you can yeah cool maybe it was one second rate retention we can just have cable service a little bit lightly from this this is the customer support yeah what they thought of it is just the in general as a general and the other thing is yeah my dad without the thought that people think they can have a second sectional yeah right right one time I've seen something in contemporary the read the full right well over but what we hundreds of students and everything they do is very very nice gestures speaking and we were given the onus of yes what it is that people one thing that one can when was something acceptable for our I lived in for a second because this was the shift in coming but second fifteen minutes winding up coming second answer the second one three minutes to say that thank is that something you can do as much as it is your strength three zero three as long as it takes you back with with with someone on that point today the day of the meeting by necessarily needed to be but that Liverpool expression the meeting servicing something which is surprising expecting action place my guess do you have a website or anything I see my name's Stephen one of the few days and we're facing for the rest what did we learn and it's you know we love the flood I had to find my new York and then going straight to voicemail the I may have a week the general pretty busy but still caller from an official American yeah podcasts I'm trying to start a website all the visual cultures I think give a platform to under study those kinds of cultures and and a very broad very interested buyer sentiment converge with other media because I don't think it's yeah okay researchers one station okay these store so this is a nice area where your choice other things there weren't all different this is the first time sign up for my and your senior high scores before and somebody came to learn more I could have no no I think the more mark by signing with them in the same way a lot because I more a facial person I think signs in general and so let's take it as seriously as I'm just trying to take in some yeah one you know thank you and I think he's dead because the music was the view original lights in them all right now you have like secret cinema right it was at this line yeah which made the screening at six different performance every time so you can have the same family sizes different music I don't see the %HESITATION composable with about the night and it provides a semi flexible little with the defense and I'll see you can have the same company but if it's if it's quite nice now it's quite the days when you have to have a great thing maybe not like tronic score and it's a different from every time yeah yeah the legal unique in addition so yeah and they will always have a soft track that right it's like music the freedom to choose your own okay your favorite you some people like to do that me that would be my high scoring from humiliation receive the Giorgio Moroder with respect right around like for example so it's like having a serious humiliation the night singing the synth sound is a date I was in the original soul from the camera the %HESITATION Michael five one sort of very this has been a great cities yeah posted a new photo Michael yeah with some of them have a commission no one in the long something's going to do what they do that's cool so we will have the potential for is the one for yeah because it's been sixty the people like it maybe it's going to I think so okay thank you so much Roger and I was hi this is great it was really great to see them together so much it's time to take a as he wasn't fit him take a while and had just done this to me are improvised performance so many many thanks him again next as a recording amid the next day so the background is a bit quieter it was recorded at king's college London and it was a great pleasure to speak with Bryony Dixon from the BFI audio visual culture is the data that is explore signed an image cultures and the broadest way possible and collect all things relating in any way it's worth out K. bay and trying to be quite borderless and they've supported them boxing if things I'm also trying to press aides thanks at our understudies not really given enough attention because I'm very interested more things converge and where there's messiness in right things aren't able to define very clearly what sort of things %HESITATION converging it grossly priced on four months of things are you looking for processing so for my school with content for all of those things yeah my PhD research was up by some innovation culture and it's an island what I was trying to look for certain in post conflict society find more useful stuff more indicative sap and art galleries an experimental work that was happen and rather than conventional filmmaking so I started to broaden what he can think of is found and then you know with digital coming in I suppose that for me I'd actually I mean that's the principal reason right now and my film okay included in the lease studies in the nineties this is very hard to see yeah to really quite recently certainly in the course of my career fair fights changed absolutely amazing to see stock C. come sit in my bed fine look at failed all comments in real life %HESITATION cost money which meant the room that completely out of we want people to speak I'm scared of it yes the royal tunnel at least seventy men they access you have to start losing stuff had already been chief okay season by Dale card on which there was a view of the site that tops the collection off site and you know the stuff you know Johnson said so there's a couple of good examples one hundred and seventy pounds yeah please the if I'd gone to a sketch Monty sees see allow me the resources to get guys call eight hundred online and physical seventy percent money for these things to be three point six I was still alive yeah conference call details spot we get this big girl recently today ten thousand from the server right it's still on the line thanks a politicized curiosities yeah because I knew I could play a little with the press he's the pharmacy council should bring some TV now yes absolutely and if you think it's always been great stories T. V. now the work of the whatever it is nine just south of France streets of London yeah what the pictures so it's really fantastic fantasy you just sat there the amount of damage coming straight he would never be able to sing bass sounds and then also to the general public because %HESITATION online for free you can see the sign I realize well it's not all about the here and now I am actually here and all right is a hundred years ago as well it makes it very content free for us you can see very clearly that will have to stop yeah people J. sizzle to cycle I guess from now on people will be able to see clearance possible minority constantly copying things will be a desire for real genuine novelty that could lock bringing novel yes interesting there are still problems that come from the city spends can extend the current situation controls thousands of tiny thing like none yeah the problem solved you can use for flights in the U. K. the right to resume site or still populations zero and this is a real problem in dogs the expansion of access to film in particular is communications where I think they're slightly clearer for the written words the total fifty problems with this one the copyright laws of very strange sightings failed on the phone and so we've had to go and play for the phone so the iPhone five cannibals my CV to match the needs to show up at the time sometimes the government exemption but not facts we all pull yes that's good to hear that actually because the general public a lot of the sweet complaining why doesn't such and such organizations as the day that you know one of the speakers these restrictions okay and we're just if you haven't found yourself browsing long time the decisions and we're recently active of vehicles for you to close we would put him on the cheek %HESITATION tools which might provide about soccer right thing about film the subjects of study a service of our international business which has been for probably most senators invented the nine AM in the side of that he said was a language barrier yeah seven of these films just try to talk to the Iranians so it was very so we would like to study surely we can all these specific copyright you know as long as you like yeah that's the case to the court to deal with by the time thank it's funny how films mentions please %HESITATION I was watching %HESITATION civilizations the thing which is an update since the classic TV series alongside and you know that sort of thing all the time about all state to provide twenty three a month and you mention mention so the thing off the tech share the scope on the it's still the cousins and many ways to say than in academia fully stocked up yeah having to justify your existence all the time yeah you just want some salt I saw you today there was somebody on the licenses it's just entertainment that's just what some may face some hard life for a sign you know all of those things will come back today after I called system works thank you notes to fund which is our fridge commercial and the equipment to the point of stuff today however I am more interested they get a lot of conflicting things looking at London's nineteen twenties interesting my phone first thing than it was in nineteen twenty four this is not the greatest film the world is now provided genuine inference to look what this is and how people see the value of buildings for example thanks Karen Dalton negligence not style supporters of trying to surround the town well no additional sentencing one of the nice things is still lacking factor it's not clear if you went around a lot of things that I can't leave a message with the old stuff even the one long it is becoming which is the thing everyone should keep everything yeah not just the things that we think are important in your eye this is a very long time line and so many people yes the stuff that we would give our I. T. to say yeah so it's really important that the FAA has faced collections we need to take it to the one Salem is that old days to do this and make sure we we still at the stage where we are not you know that the jury is nine minutes for us that we can T. five cheese arrives for certain things for which room is still we still want to do some film exhibition on film a group gets on the stand in schools so with building up collections of prints now will be exhibited on the field so that people can see what that looks like a champ in terms of preservation of certain jobs for which room is indispensable so you see why it seems time points often nice get damaged you know films of my missing one frame because it's been sent from a foreign country thanks for softball title by just sending one Friday September twenty six twenty eighteen full time as a loss so we need to make time for Christmas is the one thing called the H. two eight nine and I'm sure some grueling runs away if you made her frightened fourteen rocket and then the pizza it doesn't make much sense so your time along with the film seventy six percent since may twenty freezes and it's a horrible show so what we do is to make a call to fight sexual using it a little different for alphabet which remains with the individual Lexus put it all together how we think you should hello %HESITATION just fights across the frame and then we filled it so you film a piece of digital some on the other line it's not enough for the pool for a look which is a bit of water on the ground that Sunday night and a little bit search yeah exactly Textron go without because if you do talk to each other you've seen finally yeah that's going to change the flight for instructions what we did on the nineteen sixties sure thanks for restoration rather than conservation reservations but it's so nice it's just one of those things that he wants to and to tell you the longtime preservation of Salem family still by you can stick it in the votes gates in which is great news the three most of those things the big free you can stick in that hundreds of years and it will be fine whereas the digital palette tech and software using today sixty promotes it looks as though shelf life of about eighteen months keeps moving so fast and it's also a portable time is proprietary inside hi company near Houston on the line highs that company goes surprised it's taken over by another company these things happen and we'll have the Microsoft five years ten years fifteen years to something maybe that's part of why a restroom five you know we may decline in them but actually it's really important serve hot stuff because the final film at a light in it I have to be tested that work better than others DVDs yeah I love the seventh rooms for ever know but there's still something about the tactile nature of polluting the objects and %HESITATION Syron chancellor for linear nature yeah you know what you're doing with the music beginning at nine in the middle of the road about what you see on the TV to throw some extra percent happens where a number of big brown facial laughs at the site send someone to check back for my email I don't okay the clean clothes on videotape that successfully gotten a lot of people do anything higher into early films seven weeks of gains some sensations with Hollywood in one hand yeah but there's nothing like Salem saying at thirty five millimeter projection is %HESITATION yeah there's a special tells me S. Korean air friendly minds talking a bit about your involvement with a silent film festival the symposium in Chile sign the story okay means initially %HESITATION twenty LGAs again and myself during school time Signia brands and for a few of the people who will be here today were sitting and talking without having a bit of a complaint because there have been a series of restrictions on the lease more salary cap room or something anyway we will chain something we'd seen it before so we decided to get a shot at the same time the nexus twenty lots of American academics getting up and saying oh we might as well carry specifically %HESITATION yeah Steve is anyway so we were having a bit of a grumble about actually why is it that purchase silent film has terrible terrible reputation I'm because I was working at the all kinds of time said well you know the thing is I know because I work for the state people and say hearing in the first set thanks I know that almost no one is saying these things nine personally people who have these films one night we put together a new bands and watch them so we have to arrange the medicine on time and once again made working in the film off target with a fine meal to complain I'm still we got a gang so you can put the show room right here so that's what we did the first song from first who was born in Iran and North Sea and it's right down there and then to look around a bit and I would do is we can find something happens but essentially we have almost done the job process have still choose to view the whole of professionals in my law school system line since then with all my summer job he sets out to date but now with tons of expanding out so we do the research research related to put some verses from the hearts of events and I'm getting some of the films from other places around there so the couples planning on the completion saw it's much more interesting than anything it's true that there is not a great movements like German expressionism or anything like that where you can sort of look at body of work and that's kind of thing yes it's absolutely true that the position that invested in the mall seven eight has the lower production values and make structural German film America subsequently train always treated there are some exceptions did you throw up some great acts has a seating now but if you go to school with the wrong song and it has an awful lot of interesting stuff that people don't know about his having done the basic job twenty eight six time so you don now she writes a brief to someone from my friends three pressing project sign things wonderful number three since the day we did on the plan we were just a little of a song H. Cox St screens similar is going to be in the right well we've been able to get in Raleigh thanks for sharing only days which is really useful because we were able to send them to jail the British Council it's a big thing yeah the two sides have some have somebody shopping and get up early okay my shop from reaching further this is the US which is you know I don't think it's going to take all the words for German expressionism French films at the side of the area we didn't make enough money in it it's true however this is something to do with the British not investing in the film industry we still don't yes Sir and the roles of supervisory agencies to one of our land which we should do one of these days and we can sort of cloths issue around the film thing might be the secret so why I think Wilson the bridge nine money saving needs to invest in risky ventures like the American states and I didn't need to find people together three films in the light of the Americans yeah I think in many ways families what was depicting bet people binding together anyway I am thinking of freestanding centers for documentaries and then the texting the brakes and Sanderson which is a Cisco Systems lance is just reminds me yeah the front the the small pain nine yeah exactly do not so well sometimes it's very interesting that it's very difficult for us to talk after the meeting minutes eighteen K. Jennings small scene yeah and it was only when the front some in right because I know it's real and if any NCAA broke part of my master's dissertation on pretending systems and I think it's a real tribute to him when it came time for the ceremony of the Olympics Chinese to certain people right Jennings and national discussion insurance or something the book that was based on the mining in Canada okay published at nine one nine six things on so you can get it quite easily now unless the collection of things to do with the industrial revolution Hey don Jennings cross nineteen read grappled with four people in the beginning Danny Boyle Mike side right quite twenty total file the diaries and feeds the mistake but and the films of connection between fans when I survived the juxtaposition home values rights documents of records with film documents to back order for Hey Mister Boyle thrills twenty seven months many thanks again to you Tony Jerry Stephen and Brian eight for being so informative and generous with their time the symposium is annual usually in April and the festival is bi annual usually in September and the old Sears next week will be more about the symposium I'm pleased to address and a server really fantastic papers taking I have strays that have much to tell us by the way speak operate today if you can support the podcast on Petri on dot com forward slash PP a planner that would be hugely appreciated as any money pledged goes toward sustaining and improving it a huge thank you to Andre shield for taking me to his world thanks so much for listening please join us for more of this next week